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2023-03-03 12:34 am

Two kinds of good writer

Confusingly (yet perhaps correctly), we use the phrase "good writer" to mean two different things. More than two, actually, but I will here enumerate two.

The first is skill at putting words together to make prose. That kind of good writer writes sentences which: are easy to read, use beautiful words, have excellent rhythm, or whatever. This kind of good writer includes people who are great at explaining complicated scientific things, and people who write beautiful poems about nice orchards. (Probably it also includes people who are very good at writing persuasively.) Regardless of how good or accurate you think their books are overall, this category includes writers like Sam Harris, CS Lewis, Richard Feynman, and Vladimir Nabokov. This is often referred to as being a good stylist. (It is also often referred to as being a good prose stylist, but I think that this distinction is the same with poetry as with prose.)

The second is skill at coming up with fictional stories. That kind of good writer produces: rich characterization, incredibly original settings, narratives that make us look at our world differently, or whatever. (Probably it also includes people who are very good at investigative journalism, or at ordinary journalism, since that involves sculpting a coherent narrative – even though the narrative happens to be true; so maybe this skill is just skill at coming up with stories, whether or not they be fictional.) Regardless of how good you think they are at being a good stylist, this category includes writers like JRR Tolkien, Harper Lee, and Bram Stoker.

Shakespeare is generally regarded as being both of the two.

The weird thing is, those two categories are pretty different! Isaac Asimov is a great writer, but nobody on God's green Earth thinks he's a great stylist. Most people think that Emily Brontë is good at words, but the plot in Wuthering Heights leaves something to be desired. Yet few people would say that Isaac Asimov or Emily Brontë aren't good writers.

Indeed, the confusion can be darned dangerous: we all know that great writers can make false things sound awfully true. John Locke, Ted Kaczynski, and Lord Denning are all excellent prose stylists (and at least two of them I would call downright stupendous).

And even within the same categories, there is lots of division. You know how I mentioned Bram Stoker earlier? He wrote a heck of a compelling story, but it has all kinds of weird internal contradictions and inconsistencies that he didn't intend, including swapping out the cowboy for the protagonist in the final scene and forgetting to change their signature weapon! Paradise Lost is better at having compelling characterization than it is at having a compellingly linear plot. Nate Stevenson is fantastic at writing characters whom the audience emotionally cares about, but he might have no idea how to write a murder mystery. Some writers are fantastic at metre and terrible at rhyme. Some writers are great at describing settings and terrible at describing persons, or vice versa, no matter how brilliantly or terribly those settings or persons were invented.
Lots of religious sages are fantastic at analyzing a body of precepts, reducing them to their constituent principles, synthesizing it into a unified theory, and explaining it in understandable and convincing terms – it just so happens that they're terrible reporters, because they're completely incorrect, because their religion is plain false – so they are highly skilled reporters and also completely incompetent reporters, and we still call them good at reporting.

Now, this elision – stuffing all these different skills into the single phrase of 'good writer' – isn't necessarily entirely factually incorrect, technically. If somebody created a novel, we say he wrote a novel; if the novel is overall a good novel, we say it is a good novel; thus, if someone created an overall good novel, we say he is a good writer. Even if his ability to put words together is crapo.

So it's not inherently bad to say that somebody is a good writer even if their writing isn't good in every single aspect and way. But we have to remember the differences here. It's fine to say "Ted Kazcynski is an excellent writer", only so long as we're darned sure that everyone understands that we don't necessarily mean that his writing is excellent in every way including accuracy. It's fine to say "Isaac Asimov is an excellent writer" provided that it doesn't matter to your audience whether or not his actual prose style is excellent.

(For the record, there's a lot to be said for the stripped-down, minimalistic prose style of Isaac Asimov's average short story; one could argue that it's the most appropriate style for the story he's trying to tell, since it allows the audience to focus entirely on the story without getting distracted by the words used to tell it; just as Beatrice Warde said that the best typography is unnoticed typography, perhaps the best word choice is the unremarkable. If you believe that: whatever, think of some other writer who writes great stories with terrible prose.)

So...does this mean that Stephanie Meyer is a good writer? Well, she successfully attempted to write something that engaged her readers; many skilled writers attempt that, and many fail. So she is extremely good at at least one aspect of good writing. Maybe she averages out to being a good writer.

 

 


(Bryan Garner says that good writing requires both good ideas and good expression.)

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2023-01-19 10:18 pm

Model Englishers

Something occurs to me. I found an account of a professor in the twentieth century settling a question of Classical Latin grammar by seeing what Cicero did, I assume because we have tons of surviving works of his and because he definitely spoke highly refined educated Latin. As such, will people of 5022 use Shakespeare as a model for proper English? It would be difficult, because we have basically zero prose that we know is written in Shakespeare's own voice. Bernard Shaw is a very famous English writer, we have enormous piles of his writing, much of it is in his own voice, and he had some very specific ideas about the language; but is his work really going to go down in history? Our modern US and UK really have no famous orators who write their own speeches. Possibly Churchill is the closest equivalent; we have tons of surviving writing by him, he was an educated native speaker, and he was very important to history. Dante successfully made himself a model for the Italian language, but most attempts to reform English have failed miserably (see: Bernard Shaw). However, Samuel Johnson's ideas actually largely took hold on the educated Anglosphere; will he be the model of the future classicists who try to reconstruct Early American English? (Even more enticing, we have huge piles of biographical information about the guy, thanks not least to the discovery of the ebony cabinet.) Or maybe future classicists won't need a model; they'll have so much of a surviving corpus, including prescriptivist manuals and descriptivist surveys, that they can say things like "In the 2010s, ending a sentence with a preposition was seen as permitted in the following circumstances and phrases…" and then launch on a ten-page examination of every detail of twenty-first-century English use.


"Ah, the Harbour of Dreamland. Wow, look, there's Cicero! Hey Marcus Tullius, did you know that modern linguists study your speeches to determine what qualifies as proper Latin?"

"One would expect as much."
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2023-01-12 08:18 pm

Lingua Franca Academia

Recently I was lamenting that it's no longer the case that 99% of educated Europeans read and write Latin, making international academic communication way more difficult. But today I found out that, even within the academy, English might actually be more widespread today than Latin was then!

In terms of stuff you can read, you're better off now. It says here that seventy percent of incunabula are in Latin. According to this sample, that percentage is today exceeded by English-language articles in psychology, sociology, probably educational sciences, economics, human geography, political science, and communication and media studies. Possible exceptions include history, archaeology, linguistics (unsurprising), literature (unsurprising), and art. The only definite exception in this sample is law, where English is firmly in the minority. (Some rando claims that ninety-eight percent of science publications are in English, but that can't be right.) 

(Also, about 90% of EU legislation is in English, it's the international language of flight, and it's supposedly spoken by one in seven humans.)

In terms of people you can write to, you're probably better off back then if you only want to talk to academics; I'm assuming that basically every academic back then could read Latin, whereas today not all of them are literate in English. However, if you want to talk to non-academics, you're better off speaking English today than Latin in 1500. European literacy rates around 1500 were abysmal, such that a minority could read at all. And presumably even fewer people could speak Latin. Whereas today, 38% of the EU can have a conversation in English, and I'm assuming all of those people can read it too.

What I haven't found numbers on is the later Renaissance. Perhaps in Shakespearean times, or Georgian times, Latin was more widespread.